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		<title>By: Eberhard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eberhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also the German government spends a lot of billions of Euro for the economy. I wonder if it will work (all over the world). But &quot;billion&quot; is not the same: What America calls a billion is 1,000,000,000.  This is in Germany &quot;Milliarde&quot;. In Germany a Billion is 1,000,000,000,000. Complicated, is&#039;nt it?

Eberhard/Hannover]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also the German government spends a lot of billions of Euro for the economy. I wonder if it will work (all over the world). But &#8220;billion&#8221; is not the same: What America calls a billion is 1,000,000,000.  This is in Germany &#8220;Milliarde&#8221;. In Germany a Billion is 1,000,000,000,000. Complicated, is&#8217;nt it?</p>
<p>Eberhard/Hannover</p>
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		<title>By: emiliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>emiliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To all that may be interested in the book I have mentioned before here is a little explanation about it:

the Spanish Labyrinth (full title: The Spanish Labyrinth: An Account of the Social and Political Background of the Spanish Civil War) by Gerald Brenan, is a classic account of Spain&#039;s social, economic and political history as a background to the Spanish Civil War.

First published in 1943, it has since then run to several reprints and is, together with works by noted hispanists such as Paul Preston, Raymond Carr and Hugh Thomas, The Spanish Labyrinth is background reading for studies of Spain and its history.

The 1993 edition has an extensive foreword by Raymond Carr stating that the book was acclaimed “as one of the most brilliant political and social studies in many years” by the Chicago Sunday Tribune, and “the essence of Spain” by the Manchester Guardian. Carr himself called the book “a revelation to my generation” and went on to add “What is remarkable about Brenan’s account of the Second Republic of 1931-6” is the fairness that has enabled it to stand the test of time… his account stands out as surprisingly impartial.”


To me the book was very interesting and give me a sigh of what is the recent and not so recent history of my country, also explained what is happening just now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all that may be interested in the book I have mentioned before here is a little explanation about it:</p>
<p>the Spanish Labyrinth (full title: The Spanish Labyrinth: An Account of the Social and Political Background of the Spanish Civil War) by Gerald Brenan, is a classic account of Spain&#8217;s social, economic and political history as a background to the Spanish Civil War.</p>
<p>First published in 1943, it has since then run to several reprints and is, together with works by noted hispanists such as Paul Preston, Raymond Carr and Hugh Thomas, The Spanish Labyrinth is background reading for studies of Spain and its history.</p>
<p>The 1993 edition has an extensive foreword by Raymond Carr stating that the book was acclaimed “as one of the most brilliant political and social studies in many years” by the Chicago Sunday Tribune, and “the essence of Spain” by the Manchester Guardian. Carr himself called the book “a revelation to my generation” and went on to add “What is remarkable about Brenan’s account of the Second Republic of 1931-6” is the fairness that has enabled it to stand the test of time… his account stands out as surprisingly impartial.”</p>
<p>To me the book was very interesting and give me a sigh of what is the recent and not so recent history of my country, also explained what is happening just now.</p>
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		<title>By: emiliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>emiliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Rodrigo, I think you have explained the situation quite well and is easy to understand that poor people that have nothing need to have faith in a caudillo, who can do the miracle of changing their situation or at less given them the necessary to survive. But in fact nothing is real and they are manipulated in a different way that they were before.
Yes, I know about the great corruption of politicians in Venezuela along years, and one of the last presidents Carlos Andres Perez who has some problems about it, and with the law,  was close friend of Mr. Felipe Gonzalez our former socilialist president who has also many problems in his goverment about corruption and other bad things.
In Andalucia there are lot of people that along hundred of years has not land to cultivated, and they have to serve the rich who has huge extension of land, power, and nearly everything. So now there is a great resentement against the rich or the power represented by the church or the right ideas.
Thousands of persons have to live working the fields by seasons, and if there is not work out of recolection time they have to live with subventions of the state or the Regional Govermentl. So is nearly imposible that they vote to politicians they think are the powerful, or the right, so socialist always win all elections along years.
More or less socialists win in the little villages or the country, and the right win in the big cities where thera are other kind of works.
If a land has been humilliated by the poweful along hundred of years it is very difficult that the people that inhabit it may forget so soon as 35 years of democracy.

There is a very good book tittle &quot;El Laberinto Español&quot; written by and english-spanish author &quot;Gerald Brenan&quot; where he explain all this evens very well, also the reasons
that why the spanish societe is so complicated. He lives in Spain many years and I think is one of the best books written about the so complicated spanish recent history and the civil war.

Sorry, I write too much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Rodrigo, I think you have explained the situation quite well and is easy to understand that poor people that have nothing need to have faith in a caudillo, who can do the miracle of changing their situation or at less given them the necessary to survive. But in fact nothing is real and they are manipulated in a different way that they were before.<br />
Yes, I know about the great corruption of politicians in Venezuela along years, and one of the last presidents Carlos Andres Perez who has some problems about it, and with the law,  was close friend of Mr. Felipe Gonzalez our former socilialist president who has also many problems in his goverment about corruption and other bad things.<br />
In Andalucia there are lot of people that along hundred of years has not land to cultivated, and they have to serve the rich who has huge extension of land, power, and nearly everything. So now there is a great resentement against the rich or the power represented by the church or the right ideas.<br />
Thousands of persons have to live working the fields by seasons, and if there is not work out of recolection time they have to live with subventions of the state or the Regional Govermentl. So is nearly imposible that they vote to politicians they think are the powerful, or the right, so socialist always win all elections along years.<br />
More or less socialists win in the little villages or the country, and the right win in the big cities where thera are other kind of works.<br />
If a land has been humilliated by the poweful along hundred of years it is very difficult that the people that inhabit it may forget so soon as 35 years of democracy.</p>
<p>There is a very good book tittle &#8220;El Laberinto Español&#8221; written by and english-spanish author &#8220;Gerald Brenan&#8221; where he explain all this evens very well, also the reasons<br />
that why the spanish societe is so complicated. He lives in Spain many years and I think is one of the best books written about the so complicated spanish recent history and the civil war.</p>
<p>Sorry, I write too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodrigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodrigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To EmilIano

Thanks for yr concern, and sorry for my late reply I had ploblems with my internet conection.

That&#039;s a mistery for me and many people too, I&#039;m not a social scientist but my humble opinion is that Mr.Chavez is what we called &quot;Caudillo&quot;, a leader for the poor people many of them still have hope that things can change, and Chavez knowing very well this situation has created false hopes with social programs that don´t solve the real problems of our country but for these people who never had gotten anything it&#039;s something (demagogia), the high price of oil helped a lot, but we have to wait  because we started facing a &quot;skinny cow&quot; period and the situation can change in the coming months, currently the financial crisis has not impacted in Venezuela as much as Europe, Asian or the States but we have to wait.

In fact let me tell you that Chavez is not a cause of the problem, he is the consequence of near 40 years of bad politicians and bad public policies and a lot of corruption, and those politicians are now in the opposition movements, and this is another reason why Chavez is still in office and can be re-elected while the opposition be  the same....

Interested to know what Francisco Javier said about Andalucía, because it seems they have the same problem there.

In Venezuela we say each people have the government they deserve, people voted for Chavez so we have the bear him...

Congratulations for Penelope, it´s a triumph for all &quot;hispano parlantes&quot; FELICIDADES¡¡¡]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To EmilIano</p>
<p>Thanks for yr concern, and sorry for my late reply I had ploblems with my internet conection.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a mistery for me and many people too, I&#8217;m not a social scientist but my humble opinion is that Mr.Chavez is what we called &#8220;Caudillo&#8221;, a leader for the poor people many of them still have hope that things can change, and Chavez knowing very well this situation has created false hopes with social programs that don´t solve the real problems of our country but for these people who never had gotten anything it&#8217;s something (demagogia), the high price of oil helped a lot, but we have to wait  because we started facing a &#8220;skinny cow&#8221; period and the situation can change in the coming months, currently the financial crisis has not impacted in Venezuela as much as Europe, Asian or the States but we have to wait.</p>
<p>In fact let me tell you that Chavez is not a cause of the problem, he is the consequence of near 40 years of bad politicians and bad public policies and a lot of corruption, and those politicians are now in the opposition movements, and this is another reason why Chavez is still in office and can be re-elected while the opposition be  the same&#8230;.</p>
<p>Interested to know what Francisco Javier said about Andalucía, because it seems they have the same problem there.</p>
<p>In Venezuela we say each people have the government they deserve, people voted for Chavez so we have the bear him&#8230;</p>
<p>Congratulations for Penelope, it´s a triumph for all &#8220;hispano parlantes&#8221; FELICIDADES¡¡¡</p>
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		<title>By: emiliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>emiliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As everybody knows economic problems are general all over the world. something is changing and it is sure many things should be differents in few years. People like
me are worried about their public pensions, but the situation of youngers is even worst because they don&#039;t know what is going to happen with their jobs or their children.
Also what rights have to be lost by workers in order to mantain their works and salaries.

But we need to be optimist and do think that the world has changed already from  what it was on the twenties, all is going faster and it is sure we&#039;ll find another way of doing things better than before.

In the last century the way of amended things was a war, but now we have seen that way is such a big mistake and people in general are better informed than ever.
This way of talking, as we do in the blog, people from all nations with different lenguages and religions is a hope of not doing same mistakes once and again.

Fco. Javier welcome to the circle, little by little a lot of spaniards and latinos (Jose maria, julio, elcomadant, rodrigo, roberto..and much more) are meeting here, and of course I agree with you completely and it is just what you say the big problem that our marvellous Andalucia has.
You know that politicians want always to be reelected by people, and they don&#039;t take an unpopular rule never because it shoul be the end of their command. 
So for our Andalucia I don&#039;t see any solution in future. 
In fact there should be necessary to limit the period of time that a politician can be elected, being the same that other countries do as EE.UU. for instance.

Congratulations to Penelope, she has done a great work and yesterday night I was so happy when she grasped the Oscar being so emotioned. 
To all people from India, congratulations too, their film was incredible and it has been made with 15 millions only. I love it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As everybody knows economic problems are general all over the world. something is changing and it is sure many things should be differents in few years. People like<br />
me are worried about their public pensions, but the situation of youngers is even worst because they don&#8217;t know what is going to happen with their jobs or their children.<br />
Also what rights have to be lost by workers in order to mantain their works and salaries.</p>
<p>But we need to be optimist and do think that the world has changed already from  what it was on the twenties, all is going faster and it is sure we&#8217;ll find another way of doing things better than before.</p>
<p>In the last century the way of amended things was a war, but now we have seen that way is such a big mistake and people in general are better informed than ever.<br />
This way of talking, as we do in the blog, people from all nations with different lenguages and religions is a hope of not doing same mistakes once and again.</p>
<p>Fco. Javier welcome to the circle, little by little a lot of spaniards and latinos (Jose maria, julio, elcomadant, rodrigo, roberto..and much more) are meeting here, and of course I agree with you completely and it is just what you say the big problem that our marvellous Andalucia has.<br />
You know that politicians want always to be reelected by people, and they don&#8217;t take an unpopular rule never because it shoul be the end of their command.<br />
So for our Andalucia I don&#8217;t see any solution in future.<br />
In fact there should be necessary to limit the period of time that a politician can be elected, being the same that other countries do as EE.UU. for instance.</p>
<p>Congratulations to Penelope, she has done a great work and yesterday night I was so happy when she grasped the Oscar being so emotioned.<br />
To all people from India, congratulations too, their film was incredible and it has been made with 15 millions only. I love it.</p>
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		<title>By: FCO JAVIER</title>
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		<dc:creator>FCO JAVIER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi from Almería, south of Spain, we have another Chaves for more than 20 years and never change, because he gives money to everybody who never work. But the problem is not the politicians the problem is the system, today one group of opinion stole money from the people and tomorrow the others... the problem are the professionals politicians, if this people need to get their money from their jobs things would change.
Many Thanks and congratulations to Penelope]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi from Almería, south of Spain, we have another Chaves for more than 20 years and never change, because he gives money to everybody who never work. But the problem is not the politicians the problem is the system, today one group of opinion stole money from the people and tomorrow the others&#8230; the problem are the professionals politicians, if this people need to get their money from their jobs things would change.<br />
Many Thanks and congratulations to Penelope</p>
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		<title>By: RAUL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAUL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tampico City Mexico
I think that the president did the right thing because the economy will be activated and so the people of the United States will be helped. In every country when there is an economic problem the president and the senate are the ones who have to help the country by trying to find a good method to help the economy and the people of their country. A similar case happened in Mexico when the president was Mr Cedillo. The United States will reactivate the economy because it is a country of hardworking people. And  JEFF your explanation was very good. Congratulations for all the things that you do, I listened to your podcasts number 454 and I paid a lof of attention to your pronunciation as a native speed and let me tell you the way you did it is incredible, your intonation, your diction, your blending is something that I am going to take as a model.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tampico City Mexico<br />
I think that the president did the right thing because the economy will be activated and so the people of the United States will be helped. In every country when there is an economic problem the president and the senate are the ones who have to help the country by trying to find a good method to help the economy and the people of their country. A similar case happened in Mexico when the president was Mr Cedillo. The United States will reactivate the economy because it is a country of hardworking people. And  JEFF your explanation was very good. Congratulations for all the things that you do, I listened to your podcasts number 454 and I paid a lof of attention to your pronunciation as a native speed and let me tell you the way you did it is incredible, your intonation, your diction, your blending is something that I am going to take as a model.</p>
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		<title>By: Julio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Certainly, Jeff, to achieve a real comprehension about that considerable amount of money, it is better, as you have done, to show  by writting the real figure, up to getting at the dollars and cents. I think is the best way for everyone can understand it. The figure is amazing, as the American Economy is really, and if those resources are well managed by honest people,  whom regard as their main guide the greatest performance and efficiency, in terms of jobs and businesses, on the expenditures, the results will be able to become very impressive.
In any case, sooner or later I am sure we are going to leave this situation.
Thank you, Dr. Jeff.
Best regards,
Julio, Spain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly, Jeff, to achieve a real comprehension about that considerable amount of money, it is better, as you have done, to show  by writting the real figure, up to getting at the dollars and cents. I think is the best way for everyone can understand it. The figure is amazing, as the American Economy is really, and if those resources are well managed by honest people,  whom regard as their main guide the greatest performance and efficiency, in terms of jobs and businesses, on the expenditures, the results will be able to become very impressive.<br />
In any case, sooner or later I am sure we are going to leave this situation.<br />
Thank you, Dr. Jeff.<br />
Best regards,<br />
Julio, Spain.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Korea, there&#039;s also serious recession due to US housing crisis &amp; internal problem.
So our president, Mr. MB Lee, also come up with the stimulus plan that is similar with US&#039;s plan. 
One of the main plan is to build the great canal from Busan, where is at the end of Southern Korea to Seoul.
But it can&#039;t pass throgh the National Assembly because our opposite party &amp; a lot of environmentalist strongly oppose it.
The opposing party strongly claimed that this project can&#039;t creat the profit and stimulate the economy.
It might be right because the government also has to invest money into the high tech industry like IT &amp; BT.
But the invest into construction industry is helpful for the economy.
So they should have pushed the bill even though there is protests from the opposing party.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Korea, there&#8217;s also serious recession due to US housing crisis &amp; internal problem.<br />
So our president, Mr. MB Lee, also come up with the stimulus plan that is similar with US&#8217;s plan.<br />
One of the main plan is to build the great canal from Busan, where is at the end of Southern Korea to Seoul.<br />
But it can&#8217;t pass throgh the National Assembly because our opposite party &amp; a lot of environmentalist strongly oppose it.<br />
The opposing party strongly claimed that this project can&#8217;t creat the profit and stimulate the economy.<br />
It might be right because the government also has to invest money into the high tech industry like IT &amp; BT.<br />
But the invest into construction industry is helpful for the economy.<br />
So they should have pushed the bill even though there is protests from the opposing party.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[787 billion thanks to you dear Jeff.
Nancy from Syria but now in the United States.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>787 billion thanks to you dear Jeff.<br />
Nancy from Syria but now in the United States.</p>
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